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Re: Rookies

on Wed Dec 28 2011, 15:31
Sky wrote:bože Kole, pa ovo mu je tek 1. utakmica u NBA-u. imat će i boljih i lošijih utakmica i nekad će pokazivati sve svoje kvalitete, a nekada će ostati limitiran. Wink

čovjek je jako dobar, ne boji se kontakta, ima šut s poludistance, zna zagraditi protivnike u skoku, a i igra leđima mu nije strana.
Ja u klin ti u plocu...
Ne sporim ja da je ovo prvi mec, mozda i krene dobro da igra i to. Sporim to da si se posle 5 poena i 11 skokova javio kako sam pogresio u proceni za Kantera.
Ponavljam, za mene je to vise nego solidna partija za pocetak. Ipak, od 3. pika ocekujem vise ali ne i od njega.
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Re: Rookies

on Wed Dec 28 2011, 16:24
Koleman wrote:
Sky wrote:Enes Kanter bi mogao biti jedan od boljih pickova ovog drafta, zamislite čovjeka sa šutom Dirka i post tehnikom Pau Gasola. to je Enes Kanter.
Da nisam znao o kome pise na debiju bih ocekivao 42 poena i 25 skokova. No da ne budem zadrt, to je ok partija ali da ga proglasimo jednim od najboljih pikova... :S
30. pik se bolje dokazao od 3. za sada i to u mnogo vecoj konkurenciji Razz

onda se 30. pick bolje dokazao i od 1. picka.

Koleman wrote:
Sky wrote:bože Kole, pa ovo mu je tek 1. utakmica u NBA-u. imat će i boljih i lošijih utakmica i nekad će pokazivati sve svoje kvalitete, a nekada će ostati limitiran. Wink

čovjek je jako dobar, ne boji se kontakta, ima šut s poludistance, zna zagraditi protivnike u skoku, a i igra leđima mu nije strana.
Ja u klin ti u plocu...
Ne sporim ja da je ovo prvi mec, mozda i krene dobro da igra i to. Sporim to da si se posle 5 poena i 11 skokova javio kako sam pogresio u proceni za Kantera.
Ponavljam, za mene je to vise nego solidna partija za pocetak. Ipak, od 3. pika ocekujem vise ali ne i od njega.

dobro, shvaćam, za tebe je to bila solidna partija, dok je za mene to bila dobra partija. lik igra u ekipi koja vjerojatno ima jednu od najjačih rotacija na centru. iako nije igrao skoro godinu dana, vjerojatno je nečim zaslužio da igra 20 minuta u rotaciji u kojoj npr. Spencer Hawes ne bi odigrao ni 15.
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Re: Rookies

on Wed Dec 28 2011, 18:15
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Re: Rookies

on Wed Dec 28 2011, 18:19
Noris Kole je dokaz da kad igraš okružen dobrim igračima izgledaš 300% bolje nego što jesi. Ne kažem da je loš, ali pogledajte na kom je koledžu igrao.
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Re: Rookies

on Wed Dec 28 2011, 20:19
Noris Kol me veoma prijatno iznenadio,ali ipak kada igras sa takvima kalibrima igraca oko sebe,nije ni cudo,ali ipak je na kraju ubio Boston kada su ih ovi stizali...Very Happy Za sada odlicne igre za njega Very Happy Mnogo je premasio moja ocekivanja awesome
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Re: Rookies

on Wed Dec 28 2011, 21:01
2 utakmice kafa
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Re: Rookies

on Wed Dec 28 2011, 21:02
sinisa123 wrote:Noris Kole je dokaz da kad igraš okružen dobrim igračima izgledaš 300% bolje nego što jesi. Ne kažem da je loš, ali pogledajte na kom je koledžu igrao.

Taj Cole je uzeo loptu juče kada su se ovima stisla jaja, tako da to ti ne pije vodu..
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Re: Rookies

on Wed Dec 28 2011, 21:05
sinisa123 wrote:Noris Kole je dokaz da kad igraš okružen dobrim igračima izgledaš 300% bolje nego što jesi. Ne kažem da je loš, ali pogledajte na kom je koledžu igrao.
zilion primera igraca koji dolaze sa sranje koledza ili potpuno ne draftovani pa razbijaju. nije lebron drbilao i sutirao umesto njega.

branim kola ovoliko zato svi nesto moraju da prikenjaju. valjda im zao sto ga njihov tim nije uzeo ili im je dosadno. ne odnosi se samo na ovaj post od gore.
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Re: Rookies

on Wed Dec 28 2011, 21:06
Nije jos E'Twaun Moore zaigrao pa niste videli sta je rookie pravi Winner
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Re: Rookies

on Thu Dec 29 2011, 04:41
Irving, Kemba i Wright sabili Respekt! Napokon da neko od rukija pokazuje znake zivota Respekt!
Mali Noris iz Heata bas bas slabo u odnosu na one pornice sinoc koje je priredio.
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Re: Rookies

on Sun Jan 15 2012, 00:16
evo novog rookie watch-a sa espna..
samo za straxa Very Happy

Rookie Watch: Do the right thing

By David Thorpe
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The future is looking bright in Minnesota with rookies Ricky Rubio and Derrick Williams playing well.
The games are coming fast and furious, and rookies have no choice but to adhere to the cliché "what does not kill you makes you stronger."

The youngsters who are learning to eliminate their mistakes while maximizing their strengths are not only moving up their teams' rotations, but in some cases they're moving into starting or even starring roles. What have they been excelling at? Let's explore.
1. Ricky Rubio, Timberwolves
What's not to like about Rubio's start? Nothing. That is a rare thing to write about a rookie, but as we already know, Rubio is no ordinary rookie. His game against the Bulls was further proof of his talent and impact on both ends of the floor. His length bothers most guards on the dribble, even Derrick Rose.
Rubio just has a knack for getting deflections, which are a big part of any defense's effort to disrupt the flow of their opponent. Every second spent chasing down a deflection is wasted time for the offense and helps to ensure it ends up with a less than desirable shot.
But it's evident that Rubio's true talent is his ability to create scoring opportunities for teammates who might otherwise not be in good scoring positions. He has impeccable timing on many of his "easy" passes, delivering the ball to his shooters at the precise moment when they are most open with their feet set. Too
2. Kyrie Irving, Cavaliers
The Cavs knew they were getting a player who would one day be their floor general, as it was always clear Irving knew how to run a team. But they also hoped he would be able to score. Contrary to popular belief, there is nothing wrong with a point guard who can score (as opposed to a point guard who can only score).
Irving is proving he's not just an assertive shooter but someone who can break his man down and get into the teeth of the defense for buckets, fouls or dishes. This is key for his overall development.
Rose gets 35 percent of his shots near the rim, and Irving is at 34 percent. Of course, Irving is nowhere near the finisher Rose is because he lacks the reigning MVP's power, finesse and experience. But Rose has improved dramatically in this area over the years, and the Cavs hope -- and can expect -- Irving to do likewise.
3. MarShon Brooks, Nets
As it stands, Brooks is the best pure scorer in this class. A lot can change as the season evolves (ask Clippers fans who watched Al-Farouq Aminu last season), but Brooks has shown the talent to slash for buckets while also making almost 40 percent of his 3s. I like that he's mixing in both skills rather than one or the other. That kind of versatility makes him a tougher guy to defend.
I often tell people we should stop using height as a measuring stick for players and start using a metric combining someone's size from the floor to the top of the player's shoulders along with wingspan. Brooks would be one of my poster children for this. At 6-foot-5, he's a bit smaller than ideal for a shooting guard, but he's a tall man from shoulders to floor. Plus, his huge wingspan helps him overwhelm many guards who are listed at his size.
4. Markieff Morris, Suns
My concern with Morris was never his talent, only his desire to be great. So far it's clear he wants to be a good pro, so he's competing hard. Thus his skills are evident to everyone.
Morris came into the league as a shooter with bite, meaning he is someone who can stretch the floor on offense but also someone who will rebound, defend, set screens and play with toughness. There are not many guys like this in the NBA.
He has made more than half of his 3-point shots (14-for-24) and already has four games with nine or more rebounds. Even though he played just 16 minutes against the Lakers on Tuesday, he had four steals -- the mark of someone who's not just going to let bigger guys beat him up inside. It's early, but I already see at least four teams that would have been better off drafting Morris back in June.
5. Tristan Thompson, Cavaliers
Thompson had the Cavs' brass smiling widely in Utah, despite the fact that Cleveland lost the game. That's because he showed off so many talents. Crashing the rim for a monster tip dunk? Check. Racing the floor and making a spectacular catch on the run, then being able to stop and set up for dunk? Check again. How about a hard drive from the perimeter twice, resulting in one and-1 finish and one sweet off-hand half hook? Yep, check and check.
"Raw" was a term used to define him in June, but there was nothing raw about those plays. If Thompson can prove to be tough to defend one-on-one in the paint or the perimeter, he would rapidly join a small list of bigs with that skill set. His length and quickness already make him hard to contain on drives. As he learns proper footwork and timing, he can become a nightmare matchup.
6. Kawhi Leonard, Spurs
Leonard has the benefit of playing for a great franchise with great coaching and veteran players, but that doesn't mean there isn't pressure on him to perform well. So far, he's been able to overcome that by playing with poise and making easy plays. I can tell Gregg Popovich hopes to develop Leonard into a primary wing defender come playoff time. He's not there yet, but his length and agility will help him greatly on D.
Leonard has also been better on offense than expected, knocking in open jumpers, crashing the glass and making smart basket cuts off Tony Parker drives or Tim Duncan pinch-post action. In many ways, Leonard reminds me of James Harden, who played like a savvy veteran when he was a rookie, looking pragmatically for ways to contribute without disrupting the flow of the team. On a playoff team such as San Antonio, this is gold
7. Derrick Williams, Timberwolves
There's a big difference between Williams and Wes Johnson, the Wolves' past two lottery picks who are both considered tweeners. (Both played exclusively as 4s in college but have also seen minutes as 3s in the pros.) We're not talking about their build. It's in the way they play.
While Johnson came into the league as a gunner, Williams, who might be a better shooter, has been more interested in pounding the paint. Take a look at the stats: Last season, Johnson took 3.5 shots per game from 10 feet to just inside the 3-point line, while Williams is taking just 1.1 shots per game from that distance. Johnson wasn't successful from that range last season, and Williams hasn't been either. But the Wolves are benefiting from Williams focusing on getting closer looks, where he's making 69 percent of his 2.6 shots per game near the rim. (Johnson made a solid 64 percent last season on just 1.1 shots per game.)
Rubio gets some credit for Williams' success, but Williams has also been doing a great job running to the rim a lot. The question is whether he continues to do that if he's moved more permanently to the small forward spot. We hope so, because his strength and explosiveness are a great combination at the rim.
8. Chandler Parsons, Rockets
Houston's second-round pick looks as if he has taken the starting small forward spot from Chase Budinger, as the Rockets try to add size and competitiveness to their starting lineup. Parsons, in his second start, made his coach look smart by delivering 20 points in a win in Charlotte. He made two key 3s down the stretch and has been fighting for boards every second he's been on the floor.
As a skilled wing at 6-9, he's an excellent complement to Houston's starting guards. Unlike Budinger, who was a second-round pick in 2009, Parsons is less gunslinger and more basketball player, with good shot selection and a great feel for when to slash to the rim. The Rockets had the league's best offense after the trade deadline last season in part because everyone took good shots most of the time (except Budinger). Losing defensive specialist Chuck Hayes ironically has hurt their offense (as did losing Rick Adelman) because he fit in perfectly as a ball mover/assist man with good shot selection. Parsons has helped fill that void.
9. Iman Shumpert, Knicks
Shumpert, 21, has the build of a 25-year-old and plays like one when he attacks the rim. He's proven to be terrific at finishing attacks, both in transition and off halfcourt dribble-drives. He is powerfully built and uses that strength to body up defenders to get the finishing angle he wants. He also has good body control, so he stays balanced as he twists and bangs his way to the hole.
Shumpert has smartly used his physical advantages against other guards, a sign that he's thinking the game, not just playing it. But he's not just a powerful athlete. As a point guard, he's asked to move the ball, and he's doing so in impressive fashion. His head is up on ball pushes, looking for a streaking wing, and he's quick to find Amare and Melo in the halfcourt. That's intelligent stuff; every rookie should either make a quick attack or throw the ball to his team's best players.
He's playing the whole game too, not just offense. Watch him defend the ballhandler, looking to poke the ball free, and hunt rebounds. The edge he plays with is infectious and valuable on a Knicks team that lacks edge frequently.
10. Nikola Vucevic, 76ers
Vucevic has been a pleasant surprise for the hot-starting Sixers, finding a way to produce in basically every game he gets to play in. He has appeared in eight of Philly's 10 games, never playing more than 20 minutes, yet he's scored six or more points four times and grabbed five or more rebounds five times.
For what it's worth, he leads all rookies in PER (21.88), playing 13.4 minutes a game.
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Re: Rookies

on Sun Jan 15 2012, 04:50
Čudno da smenjuju Irvinga , baš kad "pojača tempo" za nekih 20%. Rubio je u odličnoj formi, sada više ne ulazi sa klupe, Ridnour se koristi i na dvojci... tako da , polako ih razumem i biće mrtva trka između njih dvojice ako ovako nastave.
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Re: Rookies

on Tue Jan 17 2012, 21:56
Ja mislim da je Irving mnogo kompletniji igrac od Rubia. Obojica dobro igraju i u sjajnoj su formi. Rubio me je mnogo iznenadio sa igrama. Irving mi je i drazi, mladji je i mislim da bi dosta uticala ROY na njegovu dalju karijeru.
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Re: Rookies

on Thu Jan 19 2012, 14:32
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NBA je i dalje za Irvinga, i Brooks ide sve više na listi.
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Re: Rookies

on Fri Jan 20 2012, 22:17
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Re: Rookies

on Fri Jan 20 2012, 22:19
Kanter je odmah pored Howarda ako se gledaju Rebounds per 48 minutes, ako sam dobro razumio, ali je po meni besmisleno na taj način uspoređivati igrače.
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Re: Rookies

on Fri Jan 20 2012, 22:22
Meni je bas drago zbog klivlenda, iskreno, meni je bas zao ekipa poput wizardsa, tako da se muce, Kavsi sasvim sasvim solidan skor imaju trenutno, u odnosu na to kakvo govno od rostera imaju. Bravo za kavse, nastavlja se tradicija odlicnih pikova.
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Re: Rookies

on Fri Jan 20 2012, 22:27
Ja da kazem jos jednom i rekao sam i na [Only admins are allowed to see this link] i ovde cu da je Irvin dobar ..tj odlican..i samo napred..ali po meni je Brooks..najivse pokazao samo zato sto nije bio u top10pikova..ja iskreno da kazem ja posebno posmatram rookie ove godine .i znam ih napamet u prvih 20 :)moze Milvoki da da vise prostora i vremena Tobai..da pokaze sta zna mlad je on ali ..neka samo rokaju!!!bice nesto od ovih...
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Re: Rookies

on Fri Jan 20 2012, 22:43
Ja najiskrenije, sam mislio da ce ovo biti jedna od najgorih ruki generacija....MEDJUTIM...
MarShon Brooks
Kyrie Irving
Kemba Walker
Iman Shumpert
Riki Rubio
Sve brukaa igraci, bas mi je drago zbog momaka, jos malo Knight da se probudi i toeto. Bice jako kul Rookie-Sophomore utakmica.
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Re: Rookies

on Fri Jan 20 2012, 23:02
samo mi je zao sto manimal nece igrati na istoj :\
a sigurno bi bilo dobro imati jednog takvog igraca u tandemu sa rubiom..
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Re: Rookies

on Fri Jan 20 2012, 23:10
Znam da nije ova tema za ovo Sad ali samo da kazem ako mozete nekako da pratite ovoga decka Shabazz Muhammad igra za Bishop Gorman (HS)pre neki dan dao 37poena decko je lud...znaci baya..nece on jos na draft..ali ono malo samo da vam nagovestim ko dolazi u uduce godi Smile
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Re: Rookies

on Fri Jan 20 2012, 23:12
Da da, cuo sam za lika, nisam gledao ni jednu utakmicu ali ima dosta klipova poa youtubu. Evo malo vise informacija

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Re: Rookies

on Tue Jan 24 2012, 16:41
kako me nervira rubio sa onom njegovom pacovskom facom, a posebno sav taj hajp koji amerikaci dižu oko njega. ono što oni ne znaju je da je rikiju ovo plafon i da on ne može više da se razvija. ja mogu da se kladim da će mu ovo biti najbolja sezona u karijeri, jer čim počnu da igraju malo agresivnije na njega, ili fizički jače dvojke da ga čuvaju, ili ga udvajaju, ima da počne da pravi greške ko lud i gubi lopte , po čemu je poznat u evropi.

npr. da je maršon bruks koji igra u netsima došao iz evrope ili da je bijelac, već bi ga proglasili za rukija godine.
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Re: Rookies

on Tue Jan 24 2012, 17:50
sinisa123 wrote:kako me nervira rubio sa onom njegovom pacovskom facom, a posebno sav taj hajp koji amerikaci dižu oko njega. ono što oni ne znaju je da je rikiju ovo plafon i da on ne može više da se razvija. ja mogu da se kladim da će mu ovo biti najbolja sezona u karijeri, jer čim počnu da igraju malo agresivnije na njega, ili fizički jače dvojke da ga čuvaju, ili ga udvajaju, ima da počne da pravi greške ko lud i gubi lopte , po čemu je poznat u evropi.

npr. da je maršon bruks koji igra u netsima došao iz evrope ili da je bijelac, već bi ga proglasili za rukija godine.
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Re: Rookies

on Tue Jan 24 2012, 18:09
i da ostane ovakav, a nece, nista mu ne fali. vec je jednom sve ucutkao, verujem da moze jos par puta. Smile
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